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#281329
robertto1 escribió:Eternatuta, ¿crees que lo óptimo sería ingerir el comprimido durante el almuerzo?
Un abrazo
Yo lo tomo una hora antes de irme a dormir, a la noche, porque me da un poco de sueño.
Puedes tomarlo con comida, si quieres, aunque esto retrasaría la absorción (pero no disminuye el efecto).
#281362
eternauta escribió:
robertto1 escribió:Eternatuta, ¿crees que lo óptimo sería ingerir el comprimido durante el almuerzo?
Un abrazo
Yo lo tomo una hora antes de irme a dormir, a la noche, porque me da un poco de sueño.
Puedes tomarlo con comida, si quieres, aunque esto retrasaría la absorción (pero no disminuye el efecto).
Aha, muchas gracias!

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#281490
http://www.modernmedicine.com/modernmed ... p?id=67673


Antihistamine Touted




Ebastine offers advantages in treatment of AA


Aug 1, 2003
By: Barbara J. Rutledge, Ph.D.
Special Report





Male patient, age 54, with 50-74 percent loss of scalp hair before ebastine treatment (top) and 90-percent hair regrowth after five months of treatment. (Photographs courtesy of Yusuke Yoshizawa, M.D.)

Barcelona - Ebastine, a second-generation antihistamine currently marketed in Europe and Japan, offers many advantages as a treatment for mild to moderate alopecia areata, according to Yusuke Yoshizawa, M.D., assistant professor of dermatology, Nippon Medical School, Tokyo.

Alopecia areata is a T-cell mediated autoimmune disorder targeting the hair follicles. "The pathogenesis of alopecia areata is still unclear," Dr. Yoshizawa said, "but expression of certain cell surface molecules on the hair follicle cells and the presence of peribulbar lymphocytic infiltrates are consistent and reproducible immunological abnormalities seen in alopecia areata."

Key players responsible for hair loss in alopecia areata appear to be interferon-gamma, IL-1, and substance P, among others.

T cells produce interferon-gamma, which induces expression of a variety of cell surface molecules such as MHC receptors, HLA-DR, and ICAM-1 on hair follicular keratinocytes and dermal papilla cells.

"IL-1 is thought to be the crucial inducer of hair loss in alopecia areata," Dr. Yoshizawa said at the 10th European Hair Research Society meeting. "IL-1b mRNA can be detected in skin lesions of alopecia areata. IL-1b has been shown to inhibit hair growth in vitro and stimulate ICAM-1 expression in endothelial cells."

Substance P may be responsible for stimulating expression of the IL-1 family in keratinocytes. The anti-inflammatory effects of second-generation antihistamines such as ebastine include inhibition ofcell activation, inhibition of expression of various cell surface molecules stimulated by interferon-gamma, and inhibition of histamine-induced expression of substance P.

Immunosuppressive and immunomodulatory agents have traditionally been used for treatment of alopecia areata, although often with limited success. Corticosteroid therapy is associated with potentially serious side effects and is no longer widely used. Diphenylcyclopropenone (DCPC) and squaric acid dibutylester (SADBE) solutions are used in Europe and Canada. However, local immunotherapy is more complicated for an inexperienced dermatologist to administer, and application of DCPC or SADBE solution to alopecia lesions causes contact dermatitis, resulting in itching and discomfort for the patient. By contrast, ebastine is an oral medication, and is generally well tolerated, with slight sedation as the most common side effect.

Dr. Yoshizawa described two clinical trials evaluating ebastine for treatment of alopecia areata. The first study looked at ebastine as a second-line treatment for patients who had failed diazepam. Nine patients with alopecia areata were initially treated with diazepam, and one patient responded favorably. The remaining eight patients were treated with ebastine for several months. After four to eight months, six patients showed improvement, with three patients considered cured.


Dr. Yoshizawa

In a second study, 29 patients with alopecia areata were treated initially with ebastine. Patients with mild or moderate alopecia areata had a response rate of 75 percent or 46 percent, respectively. Only one of two patients with severe alopecia areata and only one of six patients with alopecia totalis or alopecia universalis responded to ebastine treatment.

In total, 37 patients were treated with ebastine, and the efficacy of treatment based on both hair re-growth and cosmetic acceptance were evaluated. Thirty-seven patients with alopecia areata were treated with ebastine. Patients were classified into four groups based on the extent of the loss of scalp hair: mild, 25 to 49 percent loss, 13 patients; moderate, 50 to 74 percent loss, 15 patients; severe, 75 to 99 percent loss, 3 patients; and alopecia totalis or alopecia universalis, six patients. Percentages of patients in each group with at least 50 percent hair re-growth after 12 months were 69, 57, 67, and 14 percent, respectively. Patients with atopic dermatitis were significantly less likely to respond to treatment. Of 20 patients with at least 50 percent hair regrowth, only one had atopic dermatitis, compared to six of 17 patients with less than 50 percent hair re-growth (p<0.01).

Cosmetic acceptance was determined by the patient, and generally was regarded as a maximum of two or three small patchy lesions. Compared to hair re-growth, cosmetic acceptance was reported in slightly smaller percentages of patients in the study groups, occurring in 61, 43, 33, and 0 percent of patients in each of the four groups, respectively. "These rates of cosmetic acceptance were almost half the rates that have been reported following DPCP therapy," said Dr. Yoshizawa.

Overall, ebastine therapy was not as efficacious as DPCP therapy. "However, ebastine therapy was well tolerated, and the procedure was very simple, even for dermatologists not familiar with taking care of patients with alopecia areata," said Dr. Yoshizawa. "We recommend second-generation antihistamine therapy for alopecia areata in patients with mild to moderate alopecia without concomitant atopic dermatitis, who are more than 30 years old at the onset of the first episode and who have less than one year history of alopecia."

Ebastine is marketed by Almirall Prodesfarma (Barcelona). Dr. Yoshizawa reported no conflicts of interest.

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#281519
robertto1 escribió:http://www.modernmedicine.com/modernmed ... p?id=67673


Antihistamine Touted




Ebastine offers advantages in treatment of AA


Aug 1, 2003
By: Barbara J. Rutledge, Ph.D.
Special Report





Male patient, age 54, with 50-74 percent loss of scalp hair before ebastine treatment (top) and 90-percent hair regrowth after five months of treatment. (Photographs courtesy of Yusuke Yoshizawa, M.D.)

Barcelona - Ebastine, a second-generation antihistamine currently marketed in Europe and Japan, offers many advantages as a treatment for mild to moderate alopecia areata, according to Yusuke Yoshizawa, M.D., assistant professor of dermatology, Nippon Medical School, Tokyo.

Alopecia areata is a T-cell mediated autoimmune disorder targeting the hair follicles. "The pathogenesis of alopecia areata is still unclear," Dr. Yoshizawa said, "but expression of certain cell surface molecules on the hair follicle cells and the presence of peribulbar lymphocytic infiltrates are consistent and reproducible immunological abnormalities seen in alopecia areata."

Key players responsible for hair loss in alopecia areata appear to be interferon-gamma, IL-1, and substance P, among others.

T cells produce interferon-gamma, which induces expression of a variety of cell surface molecules such as MHC receptors, HLA-DR, and ICAM-1 on hair follicular keratinocytes and dermal papilla cells.

"IL-1 is thought to be the crucial inducer of hair loss in alopecia areata," Dr. Yoshizawa said at the 10th European Hair Research Society meeting. "IL-1b mRNA can be detected in skin lesions of alopecia areata. IL-1b has been shown to inhibit hair growth in vitro and stimulate ICAM-1 expression in endothelial cells."

Substance P may be responsible for stimulating expression of the IL-1 family in keratinocytes. The anti-inflammatory effects of second-generation antihistamines such as ebastine include inhibition ofcell activation, inhibition of expression of various cell surface molecules stimulated by interferon-gamma, and inhibition of histamine-induced expression of substance P.

Immunosuppressive and immunomodulatory agents have traditionally been used for treatment of alopecia areata, although often with limited success. Corticosteroid therapy is associated with potentially serious side effects and is no longer widely used. Diphenylcyclopropenone (DCPC) and squaric acid dibutylester (SADBE) solutions are used in Europe and Canada. However, local immunotherapy is more complicated for an inexperienced dermatologist to administer, and application of DCPC or SADBE solution to alopecia lesions causes contact dermatitis, resulting in itching and discomfort for the patient. By contrast, ebastine is an oral medication, and is generally well tolerated, with slight sedation as the most common side effect.

Dr. Yoshizawa described two clinical trials evaluating ebastine for treatment of alopecia areata. The first study looked at ebastine as a second-line treatment for patients who had failed diazepam. Nine patients with alopecia areata were initially treated with diazepam, and one patient responded favorably. The remaining eight patients were treated with ebastine for several months. After four to eight months, six patients showed improvement, with three patients considered cured.


Dr. Yoshizawa

In a second study, 29 patients with alopecia areata were treated initially with ebastine. Patients with mild or moderate alopecia areata had a response rate of 75 percent or 46 percent, respectively. Only one of two patients with severe alopecia areata and only one of six patients with alopecia totalis or alopecia universalis responded to ebastine treatment.

In total, 37 patients were treated with ebastine, and the efficacy of treatment based on both hair re-growth and cosmetic acceptance were evaluated. Thirty-seven patients with alopecia areata were treated with ebastine. Patients were classified into four groups based on the extent of the loss of scalp hair: mild, 25 to 49 percent loss, 13 patients; moderate, 50 to 74 percent loss, 15 patients; severe, 75 to 99 percent loss, 3 patients; and alopecia totalis or alopecia universalis, six patients. Percentages of patients in each group with at least 50 percent hair re-growth after 12 months were 69, 57, 67, and 14 percent, respectively. Patients with atopic dermatitis were significantly less likely to respond to treatment. Of 20 patients with at least 50 percent hair regrowth, only one had atopic dermatitis, compared to six of 17 patients with less than 50 percent hair re-growth (p<0.01).

Cosmetic acceptance was determined by the patient, and generally was regarded as a maximum of two or three small patchy lesions. Compared to hair re-growth, cosmetic acceptance was reported in slightly smaller percentages of patients in the study groups, occurring in 61, 43, 33, and 0 percent of patients in each of the four groups, respectively. "These rates of cosmetic acceptance were almost half the rates that have been reported following DPCP therapy," said Dr. Yoshizawa.

Overall, ebastine therapy was not as efficacious as DPCP therapy. "However, ebastine therapy was well tolerated, and the procedure was very simple, even for dermatologists not familiar with taking care of patients with alopecia areata," said Dr. Yoshizawa. "We recommend second-generation antihistamine therapy for alopecia areata in patients with mild to moderate alopecia without concomitant atopic dermatitis, who are more than 30 years old at the onset of the first episode and who have less than one year history of alopecia."

Ebastine is marketed by Almirall Prodesfarma (Barcelona). Dr. Yoshizawa reported no conflicts of interest.
La ebastina esta contraindicada con el Ketoconazol. Y es un poco pesadita pa' los riñones.
Y creo que no se comercializa en Argentina.

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#281602
por cierto, el clorhidrato de ceterizina, tópico no creo que sirva, habria que usar la base ( cetirizina) pueesto que la piel es un ámbito muy liposoluble. Ademas de calcular el equivalente del clorhidrato 10 mg en relacion a la base de cetirizina. De eso me puedo encargar yo y les cuento como quedaria una locion. Por otro lado, famérica en Argentina no me vende la droga...

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#281603
beethovenpelado escribió:por cierto, el clorhidrato de ceterizina, tópico no creo que sirva, habria que usar la base ( cetirizina) pueesto que la piel es un ámbito muy liposoluble. Ademas de calcular el equivalente del clorhidrato 10 mg en relacion a la base de cetirizina. De eso me puedo encargar yo y les cuento como quedaria una locion. Por otro lado, famérica en Argentina no me vende la droga...
Excelente propuesta. Y cómo verías una loción con 5% de minox, cetirizina (no sé la proporción para mantener el equivalente a la dosis de 10mg/día) y ketoconazol 1% (porque 2% diario me parece un poco bestia) ?

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#281605
beethovenpelado escribió:eternauta, vos tomas la algun antihistaminico seguramente por una patologia en especial que posees, por eso mismo digo que mejor seria darlo topico...
No tengo ninguna patología de ningúna clase o especie (aparte de la AGA). Empecé a tomarlo para la alopecia, despues de investigar mucho el tema, gracias a este post:

http://www.bestetic.com/groups/topic/view/topic_id/9517

el 9 de marzo pasé un examen médico, con analíticas completas. Resultado: salud 10 puntos.

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#281640
te hizo algo en la AGA la cetirizina?

Sobre la locion minoxidil más cetirizina, galénicamente debe ser posible de hacer. El problema es uqe no interfieran el uno al otro....a nivel efecto tricogénico me refiero, habria que tener claro los mecanismos de accion de cada uno para llegar a esa conclusion

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#281674
beethovenpelado escribió:te hizo algo en la AGA la cetirizina?

Sobre la locion minoxidil más cetirizina, galénicamente debe ser posible de hacer. El problema es uqe no interfieran el uno al otro....a nivel efecto tricogénico me refiero, habria que tener claro los mecanismos de accion de cada uno para llegar a esa conclusion
Sí, mucho de verdad.
Pero para entender que pinta la Cetirizina en toda esta historia de la alopecia, creo que tendrías que ver este estudio:

http://www.google.es/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=m ... bg&cad=rja

Es un PDF para descargar, un estudio frances muy serio, con micro-fotos y diagramas incluídos.
Pienso que vale la pena que lo veas.

y no se si viste este post:

http://www.bestetic.com/groups/topic/view/topic_id/9517

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#281675
si, el estudio "milenario" de Loreal, lo conozco. Bastante importante fue en su momento.

osea, que en tu caso la cetirizina te ayudo?? curioso y alentador para probarla topica jejej, algo me voy a inventar

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#281715
yo no se bien que hace la cetirizina pero la verdad que es sorprendente como me bajó la grasitud y el famoso olor a cabezota.
me bañaba y al toque ya estaba con olor y aceitoso. pero con otros antiestaminicos que tomé por mi alergia no habia pasado lo mismo.

yo me pregunto si ahora si podrían ayudar mas la biotina, zinc y otras cosas mas...

si supiera medicina ya estaria tratando de hacer un mapa de todas las concluciones...

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#281728
Loco mira yo la llevo tomando 3 dias , por el momento no puedo decir nada , solo que me corte el pelo con la maquina phillips de mi viejo, y me queda mucho mejor ahora , el clareo de la coronilla casi no se nota , y ademas no me lo corte corto corto , sino que en la parte de arriba al pasar la maquina bajo el volumen pero quedaron de 5 cm aprox los pelos y atras mas larguito lo deje , la verdad conforme.
Con respecto a la cetirizina hace cuanto la tomas? yo ademas de la cetirizina deje los lacteos, como menos carne roja y + carne de pollo por ejemplo.Como pan integral en vez de pan blanco,mucho menos alcohol(en la semana no tomo nada y el finde trato de evitar el vino tinto y la cerveza), y me tomo 1 capsula al dia de Calcio+vitamina d3( para contrarrestar que deje los lacteos) y ademas de eso un sumplemento con vitaminas y minerales para el pelo que es el Valcatil Max.
Pienso que estoy bastante cubierto desde la parte vitaminas,minerales, aunque me gustaria agregar semillas de lino ( son buenas para muchas cosas y lei por ahi que incrementarian la prostanglandina que se encarga del crecimiento del pelo) y tal vez levadura de cervezaa.
Espero que en unos meses pueda estar feliz de haber sumado la cetirizina y te deseo mucha suerte a vos y todos los que la incluyan en su tratamiento, saludos!!

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#281740
lo tomo hace re poco solo 10 dias no noto nada en cuanto al pelo pero la baja de la grasitud tan de golpe me llamó mucho la atención.

yo solo uso minoxidil y muy de vez en cuando ketoconazol.

pero el keto me da como una alergia tremenda pero gracias a la cetirizina lo estoy volviendo a usar.

la verdad mas que eso no quiero. ni implante ni hormonas.

las personas que vi en vivo y en directo no vi nada bueno.

tengo un amigo que hace años toma finas y el otro dia se sacó la remera y parecia tener pechos pequeños de mujer!!!! jajajajaj prefiero ser pelado!!!!

y otro que se hizo implante parecía que le habían colocado clavos en la cabeza! horrible.

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