[roodri]

hola gentee,estube leyendo por aca que el shampo keto es bueno contra la seborreaa..tenia un par de dudas,,yo tengo el pelo grasoso y se me puso peor desde que se me empezo a caer el pelo, y el otro dia fui a la farmacia y le pregunte por este shampo al loco y me dijo que me iba a hacer mierda el pelo si lo usaba por lo que decidi no comprarlo que opinannn??

desde ya muchas graciass

[Hugo garcía]

HOLA...
Amigo lo mejor que puedes hacer es ir al dermatologo para que te observe y te recete lo más conveniente porque presentas caída también. Suerte...

[El-Pelado-ChillOut]

te hace mierda la textura del pelo, de lo deja pajoso, pero por lo demas es fenomeno. te lo recomiendo mucho!

[mister_c]

alguien sabe como sacarle espuma, tengo que hecharme montones para que me cubra todo el pelo!

[roodri]

sii voy a sacar consulta para la otra semanaa..muchas gracias

[jerry]

De hecho todos sabemos que es un antiseborreico y es muy detersivo lo que pone el pelo muy pajizo y sin brillo por eso no se debe abusar mas de 2 labados semanales despues el resto con algunos con citrus, hortigas etc etc. Recuerdo tambien que el Ketoconazol tieene propiedades antigungicas ahora por que lo recomiendan contra la AGA?????? nadie aun en este foro dio una respuesta de rigor cientifico!!!!!!!!!! Algun moderador nos podria ayudar......Gracias!!

[jerry]

retomo el tema alguien puede ayudar??????
Saludos

[Nico]

Hola como estas !!

Aca tenes para leer este post: Sebiprox vs Fungarest

El champo con ketoconazol es un antifungico, antiseborreico y antiandrogeno suave (funciona como el minox 2% mas o menos)

Acá te dejo un estudio donde explica como funciona en casos de alopecia androgenética:

It can reasonably be concluded that the clinical efficacy of ketoconazole shampoo in the treatment of AGA is primarily a function of DHT pathway disruption rather than an anti-inflammatory effect. In rat studies ketoconazole caused 5-R inhibition [28]. Furthermore, in humans ketoconazole has also been shown to inhibit the binding of 5-R to sex hormone globulins [29]. These clinical studies suggest that ketoconazole like finasteride may inhibit the production of DHT. Unlike finasteride ketoconazole has been shown to bind to human AR [30]. Thus, the effect of ketoconazole on the DHT pathway may be two-fold: inhibition of DHT and/or inhibition of DHT binding to AR. Either or both of these properties would result in reduced incidence of DHT binding to AR and inhibiting the pathway that leads to the miniaturizing of hair follicles.

March 04, 2001 - American Academy of Dermatology Meeting - Washington DC - Scientists working for McNeil, makers of Nizoral anti-dandruff shampoo, presented the findings of a study done on 1% Nizoral shampoo which has good news for hair loss sufferers. It has long been known that 2% prescription Nizoral has beneficial effects on Androgenic Alopecia (MPB). It however has been unclear whether the same benefits can be obtained by using the non-prescription 1% version.
In the study presented (see below), one hundred male volunteers with mild to moderate dandruff and somewhat oily scalp, were using, in a double-blind fashion, either a 1% Nizoral shampoo or a 1% zinc pyrithione shampoo, 2-3 times a week for 6 months.
Analysis of the different parameters set up in the study shows that the hair diameter gradually increased with Nizoral use (+8.46%) over a 6 month period, whereas the diameter showed a trend to decrease with zinc pyrithione use over the same period (-2.28%). The sebum excretion rate was reduced with Nizoral (-6.54%) while it increased with zinc pyrithione (+8.2%) over the same period of time. The number of hair shed over a 24-hour period was reduced by 16.46% with Nizoral and 6.02% with zinc pyrithione after 6 months. Finally, the percentage hairs in anagen phase increased by 6.4% and 8.4% respectively during the study time.

The results are similar to a previous study done on 2% prescription strength Nizoral where it was shown that use of 2% Nizoral yielded a 7% average increase in hair shaft diameter similar to what was achieved by the control group using 2% Minoxidil and a non-medicated shampoo.

So for any hair loss sufferer, this research clearly indicates that using 1% or 2% Nizoral 2-3 times per week, will have positive effects on hair growth as well as controlling dandruff. It is still unclear at this time whether it's the anti-fungal properties or the anti-androgenic properties of Ketokonazole (active ingredient in Nizoral) thats responsible for the hair thickening effects, however because of the decrease in sebum rates as well, it is the authors opinion that the results are due to the anti-androgenic properties of Ketokonazole.

California College of Podiatric Medicine, 371 Columbus Avenue, San Francisco, CA 94133, USA.

Dihydrotestosterone (DHT) binding to androgen receptors (AR) in hair follicles is commonly accepted as the first step leading to the miniaturizing of follicles associated with androgenetic alopecia (AGA). Testosterone is converted to DHT by the enzyme 5alpha-reductase. Finasateride a 5alpha-reducase inhibitor blocks the production of DHT and is currently used to treat AGA. The inhibition is not complete but a reduction of DHT systemically and in the scalp is accomplished. Ketoconazole has been clinically shown to be effective in the treatment of AGA. In this paper, evidence is presented to support the hypothesis that ketoconazole 2% shampoo has a local disruption of the DHT pathway. It is proposed that using ketoconazole 2% shampoo as an adjunct to finasteride treatment could lead to a more complete inhibition of DHT and thus better treat AGA.

PMID: 14729013 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

March 04, 2001 - American Academy of Dermatology Meeting - Washington DC - Scientists working for McNeil, makers of Nizoral anti-dandruff shampoo, presented the findings of a study done on 1% Nizoral shampoo which has good news for hair loss sufferers. It has long been known that 2% prescription Nizoral has beneficial effects on Androgenic Alopecia (MPB). It however has been unclear whether the same benefits can be obtained by using the non-prescription 1% version.
In the study presented (see below), one hundred male volunteers with mild to moderate dandruff and somewhat oily scalp, were using, in a double-blind fashion, either a 1% Nizoral shampoo or a 1% zinc pyrithione shampoo, 2-3 times a week for 6 months.
Analysis of the different parameters set up in the study shows that the hair diameter gradually increased with Nizoral use (+8.46%) over a 6 month period, whereas the diameter showed a trend to decrease with zinc pyrithione use over the same period (-2.28%). The sebum excretion rate was reduced with Nizoral (-6.54%) while it increased with zinc pyrithione (+8.2%) over the same period of time. The number of hair shed over a 24-hour period was reduced by 16.46% with Nizoral and 6.02% with zinc pyrithione after 6 months. Finally, the percentage hairs in anagen phase increased by 6.4% and 8.4% respectively during the study time.

The results are similar to a previous study done on 2% prescription strength Nizoral where it was shown that use of 2% Nizoral yielded a 7% average increase in hair shaft diameter similar to what was achieved by the control group using 2% Minoxidil and a non-medicated shampoo.

So for any hair loss sufferer, this research clearly indicates that using 1% or 2% Nizoral 2-3 times per week, will have positive effects on hair growth as well as controlling dandruff. It is still unclear at this time whether it's the anti-fungal properties or the anti-androgenic properties of Ketokonazole (active ingredient in Nizoral) thats responsible for the hair thickening effects, however because of the decrease in sebum rates as well, it is the authors opinion that the results are due to the anti-androgenic properties of Ketokonazole.

Saludos !!

[la paciencia ayuda siempr]

para mister c para sacar buena espuma te echas como una bellota en la mano lo esparces con las 2 manos suavemente como cuando te lavas las manos con jabon para k no se te caiga y una vez notes la espuma pues te lo masajeas lo dejas actuar yo por mi experiencia te digo k si tiens el cuero cabelludo delicado con 3 mins te valdria y si no es asi pues 5 mins y aclaras bien xd:piensa k ningun champu va a hacerte caer mas pelo

[Bruce Wayne]

Hola, alguien sabe donde podría conseguir el ketoconazol en México??? no he podido encontrarlo y en internet me sale muy caro, gracias.

[Nico]

Hola como estas !

En las farmacias lo vas a conseguir, pregunta por Nizoral.

Saludos !

[Bruce Wayne]

Gracias ahora espero no espantarme por el precio

[Bruce Wayne]

Saludos otra vez, ya me lo pillè en el similares porque en otras farmacias no bajaba de $250 y en este lugar me costò $36 con el descuento gran ahorro no?? ahora en las instrucciones de uso dice "puede producir caida de cabello" y mi duda es que si en todos los shampoos de marca con ketoconazol viene esta indicaciòn o es tan malo el producto de similares que me puede salir peor la soluciòn que el problema??? gracias y espero su respuesta y ya aprovechando lo puedo usar con cualquiera de estos 2 shampoos??? el biotene H24 de milcreek y el Biotene de Avalon organics?? otra vez gracias y les agradecerè muchisimo la duda.

[Nico]

Hola como estas !

Todos dicen lo mismo porque puede producir un shedding muy muy leve, pero no es lo mas habitual.
El ketoconazol usalo dos o tres veces por semana, el resto de los dias el que quieras.

Saludos !

[Bruce Wayne]

Gracias Nico que gusto que respondas nuestras dudas .