Recuperar el pelo

Propecia, Finpecia, Finax, Proscar, Folcres, Sutrico, Apeplus, etc.
#342832
The (Not So Hard) Truth About Hair Loss Drugs
By Mickey Rapkin Oct 2011


Jeff O. was 35 when his wife first confronted him about their increasingly anemic sex life. The couple had gone from almost daily romps to something like once every two months. "I had barely noticed," Jeff says. "I could have an erection. But it wasn't nearly as hard as before. And the other thing-" There's more? "Yeah," says Jeff, a medical sales rep from Southern California. "The color of my ejaculation turned yellow."

After multiple visits to the doctor and a battery of tests, Jeff learned he was suffering from low testosterone, and the likely cause shocked him. "I'll be on hormone therapy for the rest of my life," he says, "because of Propecia."

Propecia was hailed as something of a miracle drug when it first hit the market in December 1997. The drug was more effective at combating hair loss than Rogaine and didn't require messy topical application. At the time, pharmaceutical manufacturer Merck warned that a small percentage of all Propecia users could experience wilting erections and decreased libido. But to the millions of people who turned to Propecia to prevent their hair loss, it was well worth the risk.

Now, new research shows that Merck may have underestimated the persistence of some of Propecia's side effects. As part of a study published in a June 2011 issue of the Journal of Sexual Medicine, Dr. Michael Irwig of George Washington University surveyed 71 regular Propecia users to find that 94 percent suffered low libido, 92 percent experienced erectile dysfunction, and 92 percent had decreased sexual arousal. What's more, the survey showed that some side effects could last an average of 40 months after patients discontinued use of the drug, bucking the commonly held perception that the cure for any unwanted symptom is simply to stop taking the pill. "That's the novelty of this study – the persistent side effects of Propecia," Irwig says.

It's important to keep in mind that the sample size of Irwig's study was small and that most of the men he interviewed were recruited from Propeciahelp.com, an online support group. The percentage of users who suffer significant side effects is certainly smaller than this study suggests. Still, there's little doubt that these findings will attract more scrutiny in the future. They have already attracted lawyers: Several firms across North America are currently pursuing cases against Merck. The key question now is whether Merck knew that side effects could persist even after patients stopped taking the drug.

If there's a smoking gun here, it might just be in Merck's own hand. According to a complaint filed in Florida, Merck expanded the warning on the product label to include the "persistence of erectile dysfunction after discontinuation" in the face of a study by Sweden's Medical Products Agency suggesting that Propecia could be a long-term sexual inhibitor. But the rewrite appeared just in Sweden. In March 2010 the fine print was also amended in Italy, but nothing about the possibility of lasting sexual side effects appeared in the U.S. until this spring, perhaps in response to the publication of Irwig's study and a review from the Center for Sexual Function at the Lahey Clinic in Peabody, Massachusetts, which reached a similar conclusion.

In a statement responding to our inquiry, Merck acknowledged that some Propecia users – it put the number at 1.3 percent – experienced erectile dysfunction, but the company hedges on the subject of how long side effects can last, saying "a causal relationship...has not been established."
To understand the link between hair growth and sexual function, it helps to know how the drug works. Finasteride, the active compound in Propecia, is a 5-alpha reductase inhibitor, meaning it blocks the conversion of testosterone to the more potent dihydrotestosterone (DHT), which thins hair and contributes to baldness. Finasteride was originally developed to shrink enlarged prostates (in a drug called Proscar), but doctors noticed that it also grew hair.

It's worth noting that infant males born without the ability to convert testosterone to DHT are also born with ambiguous genitalia. "You need DHT to make a penis," Irwig explains. For this reason, pregnant women are told to avoid exposure to the drug.

The late-breaking warning on Propecia is cold comfort to David M., a 29-year-old from Virginia, who went off the drug after four years only to discover that his side effects worsened in the following 12 months. He now suffers from low testosterone levels (which can lead to gynecomastia, or what schoolyard bullies might call "bitch tits"). David acknowledges that he didn't do much research before filling his first prescription. "I was shedding hair, and my dermatologist suggested Propecia in conjunction with Rogaine," he says. "It definitely stopped the shedding. It did what it was supposed to do."

There are also many men who have been on the drug for years without incident. Abdulmaged M. Traish, a professor of biochemistry and urology at the Boston University School of Medicine, explains, "There is redundancy in biology. If one spark plug fails, others will continue to fire," meaning that the human body can compensate for the loss of DHT in a number of ways.
To adequately address the lasting effects of Propecia, Merck would need to conduct a study of 10,000 patients – half on Propecia, half on a placebo – over a five-year period, Irwig says. "But I don't see that study happening. It's too expensive." What we do know without a study is this: Stop taking Propecia and risk losing the hair you retained or regrew within the year.

What happens next is up to the courts; preliminary proceedings are already under way. (The FDA, meanwhile, has been relatively silent on the matter. It approved Propecia to fight hair loss in 1997 and, with the exception of a 2009 warning against Merck for not being up front about the hazards, hasn't really looked back.) But the one thing everyone can agree on is the need for more information. As Bernard Daskal, a partner at Lynch Daskal Emery, a Manhattan law firm investigating Propecia, says, "If you have questions, you should see a doctor, not a lawyer."

For what it's worth, Dr. Julian Mackay-Wiggan, a dermatologist at Columbia University, is still prescribing Propecia to her patients, as are many other doctors. "I say to my patients, 'This is a relatively new drug, and this is what we know about it, and the fact is that oftentimes we discover more as time passes,'" she says. "But right now, based on what we know, I feel comfortable prescribing it." If anyone doubts her intentions, she offers a fairly bulletproof defense. "I don't know if he'd want me to say this," she says, "but I have my husband on Propecia.

http://www.mensjournal.com/magazine/the ... s-20121115


Sabe alguien más información acerca de la relación entre el consumo de finasteride y baja tetosterona?
#342859
sera que antes de la existencia de finasteride la gente mantenia su testosterona en rangos normales toda su vida ?
Tengo bajo nivel de testosterona ( cuando finasteride realmente lo incrementa ) , tomo finasteride, ergo finasteride es el causante.
Tengo un colico ? tomo finasteride ? finasteride es el causante, etc
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The late-breaking warning on Propecia is cold comfort to David M., a 29-year-old from Virginia, who went off the drug after four years only to discover that his side effects worsened in the following 12 months"

Aca te dice que dejo de tomarlo y sus sintomas empeoraron al dejar de tomarlo !!!!! Cualquier persona sensata, llegaria a la conclucion de que no es el finasteride ( sobre todo por la baja vida media que tiene ) .
Es realmente muy poco serio el articulo que publicaste.
No es que finasteride no pueda causar efectos secundarios, ahora, pensar que con 35 anos no podes tener niveles bajos de testosterona por otro motivo, y encima no tener encuenta que la discontinuacion del farmaco no sirvio para revertir el problema, es de una estupides muy importante.

O sea, te dicen es el finasteride. Entonces te digo, deja de tomarlo. Lo deja y en vez de llegar a la conclucion de que no era el finasteride y buscar la verdadera causa, dice " viste, era tan peligroso que aun dejandolo de tomar sigo teniendo el efecto " !!!!!!!!! Es una incoherencia medieval.

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#342948
les pongo este ejemplo muy claro :
Supongamos que ustedes comen una manzana verde todos los dias y tienen acidez, por lo cual llegan a la conclucion de que la manzana verde le causa la acidez. Dejan de comer manzanas y no solo no mejora la acidez, si no que con el tiempo empeora.
Llegarian a la conclusion de que aun asi era culpa de la manzana ? o pensarian que en realidad lo que le estubiese causando la acidez seria otra cosa ?

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#343288
creo que no hay peor ciego que el que no quiere ver , todos sabemos las terribles consecuencias que puede causar el ingesta de finasteride por un tiempo prolongado , incluso en este mismo foro y en todas las webs de alopecia se ven distintos casos , y por experiencia propia me atrevo a decir que no es sugestion el hecho que por ahi halla un par de paronicos hablando del tema no se puede tildar a todos de lo mismo , y hay muchos pacientes que a base de una historia clinica pueden dar fe que el finasteride les produjo efectos secundarios terribles, incluso muchos medicos serios no recomiendan su uso para la alopecia ya que conocen los efectos negativos que puede traer el farmaco .

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#343428
Hola Manuel... vos seguis con finasteride? SEGUIS ALGUN TRATAMIENTO?
Por mi parte estoy tomando finas... pero tengo la libido por los suelos... ya no se si seguir... pasa que se que con el minox solo la pelea esta perdida...

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#343433
manuel87 escribió:creo que no hay peor ciego que el que no quiere ver , todos sabemos las terribles consecuencias que puede causar el ingesta de finasteride por un tiempo prolongado , incluso en este mismo foro y en todas las webs de alopecia se ven distintos casos , y por experiencia propia me atrevo a decir que no es sugestion el hecho que por ahi halla un par de paronicos hablando del tema no se puede tildar a todos de lo mismo , y hay muchos pacientes que a base de una historia clinica pueden dar fe que el finasteride les produjo efectos secundarios terribles, incluso muchos medicos serios no recomiendan su uso para la alopecia ya que conocen los efectos negativos que puede traer el farmaco .
Todos sabemos ? cuanto casos leiste en este foro ? vamos a exagerar, digamos 100 ? Cuantos millones de usuarios de finasteride te pensas que hay en el mundo ?
Vos te hiciste una analitica ANTES de empezar el tratamiento ?

Como vos dijiste, no hay pero ciego que el que no quiere ver. HAsta te puse el ejemplo de la manzana y lo seguis negando.

Puede ocacionar efectos secundarios ? Si, pero justamente este articulo que postea demuestra que esta persona no tenia efectos secundarios por el finasteride, otra es su causa.
Como pueden empeorar los efectos 12 meses despues de discontinuada una medicacion cuya vida media es tan solo de 7 horas?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?

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#343434
Llevo años tomando finasteride sin otro efecto secundario que el semen acuoso. En mi experiencia jamás tuve baja de libido (ojalá me bajara un poco) ni alteraciones cognitivas, tampoco me he transformado en un zombie ni veo gente muerta.

Siempre he entrenado con pesas (sin consumo de anabólicos) y en cuatro años mi composición muscular no ha sufrido y ha evolucionado acorde al entrenamiento y la nutrición. En mi cuerpo la medicación ha respondido acorde a los patrones previsibles. Digo esto al sólo efecto de dejar sentada mi vivencia.

Mi recomendación es hacer lo que diga el médico de confianza, y finasteride, como toda medicación, requiere supervisión médica. Está aprobado por la fda, y por los organismos de salud de mi país. En cuando a las class actions... sólo el tiempo dirá y por ahora, no se ha expedido.

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